Feedback on paper of Lee & Barnden. FLAWS This paper has an unusual main hypothesis: one that refers to research methodology. Unfortunately, no convincing evidence is provided to support this hypothesis. No clear criteria are given as to what it means for a machine to 'understand' a metaphor, i.e, some formalisations of metaphors are provided, but it is not clear how these are to be evaluated or assessed to ensure that they are, in some sense, 'correct'. The notion of 'dead metaphor' is mentioned, but this is not taken seriously as a rival explanation, especially of mixed metaphors. That is, 'dead metaphor' is interpreted as an importation of terminology into a domain, that was originally metaphorical, but, though long usage, has now become part of the new domain, such that it can no longer be consider metaphorical. If this happens twice or more from different source domains, then the 'mixing' is now only apparent. HYPOTHESES Below, I quote the main hypotheses of the paper and discuss any evidence provided to support them. 1. "This article suggests that such an assumption [that mixed metaphor is secondary straight metaphors] is detrimental to long-term research". This is an interesting hypothesis. It is about research methodology in the metaphor-understanding field, rather than a claim about a specific system. What kind of evidence might support it? I'd be looking for evidence that the attempt to emulate and understand 'straight' metaphor, in a way that was not readily extensible to mixed metaphor, had led the field in the wrong direction. But no rival, 'straight'-only, research is discussed at all, let alone an attempt to somehow show that its programme had failed. Rather, we are shown an exemplar of an approach that can deal uniformly with both 'straight' and mixed metaphor. Such an example is suggestive evidence for the hypothesis at best. It shows that uniform approach is possible, but neither that it is the best approach nor that an uncombined approach is detrimental to the field. 2. "It is claimed that the same kinds of reasoning and knowledge structures involved in understanding straight metaphors are also required in understanding mixed metaphors and that mixing is a central phenomenon." This is a sub-hypothesis of #1. The key word here is "required". One exemplar of a system that /can/ handle both is not evidence that it is /necessary/ to handle both with a single approach. Of course, one can appeal to Occam's Razor to argue that a single general approach is more desirable, if possible, although such an appeal is not made explicitly. Neither is evidence provided that mixing is a /central/ phenomenon, just that there are quite a few examples of it and that not all these examples can be regarded as examples of "defective speech". 3. "The reasoning processes and data structures involved in understanding mixed metaphors are identical to those used in understanding straight metaphors". This is similar to 2, but clearly too strong, since they themselves have to extend ATT-Meta to allow nested cocoons to deal with mixed metaphor. However, by providing a uniform model to deal with both kinds of metaphor, this is the claim they come closest to showing. 4. "ATT-Meta should, if possible, be broadly consistent with experimental results in psychology". This is a very weak claim. Note that they are /not/ claiming psychological validity for their system ATT-Meta, but only that it is 'broadly consistent' with experimental results, i.e., that its psychological validity has not already been decisively refuted. It's an interesting discussion, as it analyses what might be thought to be such a refutation, namely that it is based on a discredited "literal first" approach, and argues that the situation is more subtle and complex than previous commentators have presumed. This was an interesting contribution, but somewhat peripheral to the main theme of the paper. The methodology employed in the paper is an example of what philosophers call 'conceptual analysis', and which is used throughout cognitive science. It is a detail reasoned argument for conceptualising, modelling or formalising a cognitive phenomenon in a particular way, in this case the nested-cocoon model of metaphor. It typically uses a series of well-chosen examples and non-examples to differentiate and prefer one model over its rivals. One disadvantage of this methodology is that any claims are necessarily based on a few (non-)examples, since each one requires an extended discussion. To compensate, it is implicit that these examples were chosen, with some care, to be widely representative. YOUR REVIEWS * Some of you missed or de-emphasised hypothesis 1. Its prominent placing in the abstract and repetition throughout the paper made it the main claim. * Some of you picked a lot of minor, passing or supportive claims and gave them equal billing with the more major ones. You have to learn to identify which claims are major and which minor. Only the former need to be discussed, although they subsidiary ones might be mentioned in support. * Many people using the ERA forms were tempted to tick a lot of boxes without justifying commentary, leading to vague and unsupported criticisms. * The potential significance was underestimated. If the main hypothesis had been proven then it might have saved a lot of researchers wasting their time with unsuccessful methodologies. * Some people using the latex template ticked contribution 9 "Identifies and motivates a new problem", usually citing the main hypothesis 1. This was a misclassification.